Bob Marovich, editor-in-chief of the Journal of Gospel Music, and Hasan James, publisher and editor of Root Magazine, talk with host Jon Caramanica on The New York Times Popcast about the new Kanye West album and film, Jesus is King.

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Written by : Bob Marovich

Bob Marovich is a gospel music historian, author, and radio host. Founder of Journal of Gospel Music blog (formally The Black Gospel Blog) and producer of the Gospel Memories Radio Show.